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in alabama at the birthday party. new flash points in a fight fo abortion rights, it's a more disturbing revelations about supreme court justice clarence thomas we will dive into those issues during our exclusive interview with senator bernie sander coming up first. plus, the daily shows jordan klepper knows a thing or two about emirate conventions an maga republicans i will get his thoughts on the culture of guns and the people who still support donald trump and, i spent the day wit congressman jamal -- at the school he founded in ne york a spoiler, alert he does not think the teachers should carr firearms it feels a lot like the ne cycle is spinning really quickly but we cannot leas fight of the fact that eac major story this week coul have a direct impact on both our country and our lives. on our health, the court syste continues to battle over acces to a key abortion pill

and in the shadow of that figh florida governor ron desanti quietly signed a six-wee abortion ban into law olympian at night on our safety, top hopefuls fo the republican nominee shoul preach their loyalty to th emirate amid a series of mas shootings across the unite states, including one just las night. on the national security sid of our country, a 21-year-ol air national guardsmen was arrested after leaking classified intelligence on bot our adversaries and our allies and on our institutions, justice clarence thomas failed to disclose a real state dea with a gop maga donor. i can't think a few people but you to discuss all this within senator bernie sanders who joins me now he is the author of the ne book, it is okay to be angry about capitalism i don't know how you found the time to write a book amids everything going on, when whic touches on so many issue impacting all of us. we will get to that in a momen but i just wanted to start i with a few items in the news this week. there were new revelations senator, this week, abou

supreme court justice clarence thomas and his financial relationship with a billionair harlan crow. just this morning there's even new reporting about some accuracies on his financia disclosure forms your call sent - your colleague in the whit house is calling for investigations on clarence thomas for potential ethic violation. do you back senato whitehouse's call? >> i think that senato whitehouse is on the right track. the supreme court does not hav to go along with the same type of ethics rules that members o congress and other judges do at the time we ended tha leniency for the supreme court some of what we are readin about in terms of judge thomas is really quite outrageous and i think it needs to be investigated >> but by the department o justice? >> yes, right. >> and a number of colleague of yours in the house and in the senate to have said he should be impeached.

do you think that if wrongdoin is found he should be impeached? >> i think the first thing you want to do before you impeac somebody is investigate situation. i think it is what the department justice should be doing. >> seven u.s. meant a lot of time, really throughout he career working on issues relating to the judiciary is senator feinstein, when your longtime colleagues. -- called for her to resign because her medical absence is keeping democrats from confirming judges. no doubt a big priority for al of you, but do you think she should resign? >> i have not talked to senato feinstein in several weeks my hope is that she will b back as soon as possible the decision about whether somebody should resign rests with that individual themself. i don't think you should force that she should take int consideration her all th situation and when she is goin to be back >> you are the chairman of the senate health committee. there is a lot going on with that committee right now which has oversight over the fda. right now in a cover for the

abortion pill could be revoked it is really hanging on th balance. should courts have the ability to rule to take a drug awa from millions of people? like, this but also others >> look, this is a continuatio of a fundamental attack on women's rights it is beyond comprehension tha in the year 2023 there are people who think it should not be women who control their own bodies, but the government and this is just another example of that. we have got to fight as hard a we can to make sure that women are the people who determine their lives and that some -- not some right-wing politician >> you are in an op-ed back in october, senator sanders, last era, the democrats should no focus only on abortion in th midterms that is a myth stake it proved to be quite a winnin issue. in, fact the level of backlash to dobbs really even surpris me and i've been at this awhil as well. did you underestimate the powe of this issue and the power it

had in motivating letters? >> no, jenna what i said is that abortion should be front and center the rights of women to control her and lies is a fundamenta issue. but it cannot be the onl issue. and if you recall, during th 2020 campaign at the end of th campaign people started talkin about workers rights people started to talking abou social security. and preserving medicare. and health care. so no, i don't think i was wrong. the bottom line is of course w have to continue the fight for women's rights and abortio rights but you cannot ignore th reality that 60% of the worker in this country are living paycheck to paycheck we have massive income and wealth inequality. people cannot afford childcare they cannot afford health care and they are struggling. you cannot ignore those issues >> we need to focus on all o those issues, they are all important. we just got new details, senator, about another mas shooting this one overnight in alabam that he did his birthday party a lot of details are still coming out

you yourself, i think talked about this a fair match, hav been involved in the issue o guns you voted against a bill i 1993 the establishing actual background check and for a bil in 2005 that protected gun companies from lawsuits. you have been very pro-gun safety and all of the measures in recent years. as gun reform advocates ar looking to try to move peopl to actually do something, what can they learn from you abou your own evolution on this issue? >> let's be, clear jen 1988 when i ran for congress for the first time, i supporte a ban on assault weapons all right? i come from a rural state, a lot of people are hunters here into target packed practice, it sandra where we are right, now what the world has seen, horrific lee and unspeakably i the last 20 plus years, ar these terrible mass shooting in schools and elsewhere and the very good news is that ordinary americans, in large numbers, understand that w need at least common sense gun safety legislation

that means that people who should not own guns, for a variety of reasons based o their background, must not have it we need universal backgroun checks in my view for the last 20 plus years i think when you are looking a these automatic weapons that are designed to kill peopl rapidly, these are militar weapons. these are not weapons that should be in our civilian civi society. >> president, former president trump has appealed to workin class, voters as have you, ove the course of your career quit a bit. in a recent cnn poll - >> i don't appeal to working class voters, i appeal t voters a general >> you certainly do. i have a point here, senator let me get to. it in a recent cnn poll, 58% o republicans without a four yea college degree said that nominating trump again we give the parties best into winnin again in 2024. you have warned against no focusing on issues that ar imported to a range of workers range of americans in th working class.

are democrats underestimatin trump? is that something you ar concerned about as you are watching >> of course they ar underestimating trump. but the issue that we should ask ourselves is how does that happen, when you have pathological liar who is a billionaire who can care les about working class people and ends up with so much working class support. the reason for that is for too many years democrati leadership has turned its back on working people. so you have today a minimu wage which remains the $7.25 a hour you are the only major country on earth that does not guarantee health care to all people, as a human right 50 miles away from the canadian border, they spend on half as much as we do pe capita on health care for al people we pay the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. we have corporations that make it hard for workers to joi unions we have a childcare system which is a total disaster. do you think we pay attentio to the needs of the workin class in this country? millionaires are doing

phenomenally well. it is time we spoke for workin people, and decided it works for all of us when you do that i thin people see the nature of somebody like donald trump >> president biden said this week that he plans to run fo reelection, but he's not yet prepared to announce you said you're going to support president biden, but are there places, it may b touched on some of them just now, where you've been frustrated that hi administration has not gone fa enough at this point >> of course they have look you tell me that the america people decide why in some case they're paying ten times mor for prescription drugs than th people of other nations. why. that's what the power of the pharmaceutical industry, the fact that they have gu lobbyists in washington, d.c.. as a present but strong enough in telling the drug companies, sorry stop riffing off the american people, and enjoyin record-breaking profits? no, is not

we need to raise the minimum wage in my view, to at least $70 an hour. so that workers and low income people get a fair shake. have we heard enough about that? no, we have. not we need, as i mentione earlier,, to make sure that no only do we protect socia security from the -- that republicans, want but w expand half the elderly people in thi country have nothing in the bag, as they face retirement. i have not heard the present talking about that as much a we should. by the way, this is what the book was about which you mentioned earlier, we ar moving towards an oligarchic form of society. and i know that that is no control for people to hear but it is important we discuss this issue we have more income and wealth inequality today then we've ever had. we have more concentration o ownership than we have eve hand we have a corrupt politica system which allow millionaires through super pac to by-elections. those are some of the issues that we need to discuss in corporate media. we need to discuss in th

united states congress >> the title of your, book i is okay to be angry abou capitalism really good sit wit me it's a really good book, title senator. of all the things that voter are angry, about and there are many, abortion lack of focus o gun reform, even clarenc thomas's questionabl relationship with billionaire. i know how you feel abou billionaires why shouldn't capitalism be at the top of that list why is that important to be in the title of that book >> jen, what is important, abortion is a huge issue social justice is a huge issue but you, know sometimes th corporate media forgets about. it congress forgets about. it you and i were chatting today. you know that there are tens and tens of millions o americans who cannot affor health care and are scared t death if their kid or thei parent gets sick they don' know what's going to happen. there are people working for starvation wages, and there ar moms that can't afford to send the kids to decent child

claire can't even find a slot those are issues of enormous importance, we don't talk. about tell them we've go through bill and talk today, more wealth in the bottom half of american society. does that sound we have -- does that sound of a economy that works for all of us is that an issue wit discussing >> we are talking about it, no it senator happy to have you on i do want to ask, you sir, about president biden' nomination of julia sue fo labor secretary. >> i love julie. we are gonna do our best together but let us talk about income and wealth inequality. let's talk about concentration -- let's talk about corporate ownership of the media do you think those are issue worth discussing >> well, senator, i have you on today we are having conversation about all of thes issues i did want to ask you abou this you are chairman of this committee. it is important to have a labo secretary in, place right? there is reporting tha suggests that the holdouts are senator manchin and senato sinema first, what is that true

and second, what are you sayin to them to get them on board what is the case you are makin for her? >> well, look. we have manchin and sinema who taught us to build bac america. you are slightly familiar with that issue, i think. having worked for presiden biden. it was a monumental piece of legislator, which i thought wa transformative you have two corporate markets who refuse to support that ver important initiative that we all work very very har on once again, i think what you have with this issue, is which side are you on? for manchin and sinema and anybody else, they're going to have to decide julie su is now being -- all over the country because she stands up for workin people she believes in apprenticeship rogue rams she believes in raising th minimum wage she is opposed to th exploitation of children she is a very strong candidate somebody i want to see becom the secretary of labor corporate interest as well and we will see how members of

the caucus vote on it. i think we are going to have unanimous support for her on the committee. but as you indicated it come down to some of our corporat democrats in the senate. >> senator bernie sanders, thank you for joining me thi morning. be sure to check out the senator's new book, it is okay to be angry about capitalism next, why the case against a international guardsman ha some pretty striking parallels to another investigation one involving a person we ar all a lot more familiar with plus, you might recognize hi from the daily show, but he is really known for joining to th depths of the maga universe. -- we'll be here to talk all abou the different realities th country seems to be living in. and, later congressman jamal bowman's weekly routine. we get into his thoughts about tiktok and why he decided to leave his job as a middl school principal to run fo congress we are back after this mara, are you sure you don't want -to go bowling with us tonight? -yeah. no. there's my little marzipan! [ laughs ]

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one thing is different this year's nra meetin certainly isn't drawing th crowd used to. as political points out, the nra has been, quote, pummele by lawsuits in scandal i recent years in 2019, the annual gatherin took place in the belly of the cavernous lucas oil stadium. but this year, it was just in ball or at the indiana convention center, and tea ticket prices were dropped t free admission when you need t fill out the room. but that has not dampened th interest in the republican candidates the nra's list of speakers included former vice president mike pence, and former president trump, but of all th speakers, one thing that south dakota governor said about her granddaughter that stuck out t me >> little miss adi, who wa almost two, and branch, who wa just a few months old. they have brought us so much joy. they brought us purpose. now adi, who soon will nee them, i want to reassure you she already has a shotgun an

she already has a rifle. and she has got a little pon named sparkles to, so the girl is set up. >> not yet to, already has a shotgun and a rifle. guns have become a part of our culture, including, as you heard there, with young kids which is especially grim whe you remember that firearms are the leading cause of death for kids in the united states. the celebration of weapons in country where gun violence i far too prevalent. that is something i really struggle to wrap my head around my next guest is someone who has spent years in the trenche with the staunch supporters of the second amendment this jordan klepper has made appearances at nra conventions at most recently the rally outside the arena former president trump. jordan klepper joins me now. thank, you jordan, for takin some time this morning as yo are preparing to host a dail show this week >> thanks for having me. >> thank you for being here. >> we are sitting here today and following updates on yet another mass shooting alabam

just last night at a birthda party, and these shootings are happening more frequentl around the country you've attended numerous gun shows in your time, includin one of the biggest in th country recently for the staunchest nra supporters, guns have become a symbol of their cultural identity, feels like explain to us what you think i going on here. >> well, i do think, i was jus recently, a couple weeks ago at the world's largest gun sho in tulsa and what you take in there i sort of this tactical lifestyl that is being sold to th american public. so, of course you have you hunters and your hobbyists, bu when you walk inside, you ar being sold this fear, this aggression, this victimization asking you to take an offensiv stance with your weaponry. and then we look at what i happening at the nra convention, and you see those things echoed it is no surprise that these nra moves are being echoed i the maga movement. they are speaking to the sam crowds, they are filling the with fear, victimization, an this idea that liberty is bein

taken from you and it is sort of a deadly cocktail which allows all of these folks to be afraid and at the end of that, they are selling guns >> as you just noted, you've been traveling around th country asking trump supporter and members of the gop about their ideas, these are amazing if you haven't seen them, what is the one thing the people wh despise trump, of which ther are many in the country, which today understand about the people who still support him because we've talked a lot o these people at these. >> you know where i thin things become difficult, peopl change, can trump supporters change their mind. can you ever win an argument with a trump supporter and i think you can convince somebody to change ideas, yo can have discussions over what people want. you can't have discussions ove who people are, and what trump has done is that he has made the maga hat a symbol of who h is and who they are. so you put that thing on, yo don't believe in those ideas you believe that thi represents you and i was talking with a gun

rights advocate recently, an he acquitted the maga hat with ar-15s so you look at this gun cultur we are part of, and you have discussions of how do we lower these casualties and you bring up something lik assault lessons, and what they have trickled done is they'v made the ar-15 a new maga hat. so you can't debate whether or not that is something a chil should have, because now tha has become a point of pride in a point of identity. and that to me is somethin that is really hard to change. >> yeah, let's take a look a your interviews from the day that former president trump is arraigned, and we will tal about that on the other side >> i don't believe what you ar seeing is justice. >> you don't believe in th grand jury process >> i don't believe, that i this was a civilian -- >> he is a civilian, he's person, he is a new york address. so he should go down through the granddaddy process >> i believe it should b dismissed. >> because >> because i am going by a

general gut feeling. >> the way i see it is, th government is stepping up of their balance and doin something if they can't do going after donald trump this happens all the stuff >> what stuff? >> paying off a porn star -- but >> it's his life >> and of all the cases up against donald trump, this i probably the weakest one >> probably the weakest one. >> so when i watch that and hear john dropping comment lik that, like many, many videos that are similar you seem to think very quickly on your feet but how do you prepare to kind of dive into those trump rallies or events where ther is going to be a lot of trum supporters >> there is a zen i have to ge into, first and foremost that is to be prepared to ge all sorts of new, creative ideas. medication helps, intoxication also doesn't hurt. >> but do you anticipate wha they are going to ask them >> we almost call it debat prep

i go out there with a certai assumptions, i read the news sources to a lot of the folk these rallies are ingesting, a check out news max, i go on th rider boards you understand these arguments we debate them, but we tal about these arguments, we talk about follow questions we have we are looking for logical fallacies, and then we go into the world and engage and more often than not, the people that you talked to have not had to go beyond that firs gut reaction to follow up with that second question and that is where we find th humor and or the anthropological interest >> turns out the followups maybe what get people sometimes, you've also done a lot of work diving into some of the wildes maga conspiracy theories, of which there are many what has been the wildest thin you have uncovered or somethin that has really stepped out to you? >> well, i am shocked and ho often jfk junior is invoked as not only somebody who is still alive, but as somebody who i now a republican and potentially in the oval office i think that i think tha really scares me though is how

so many folks in the mag movement are unable to look of the idea that donald trump i not still in power and not that he won th election, that seems to be commonplace right now, you can believe that he won th election but as far as the number of people who truly believe that he still has power, he is still making decisions and i think that goes to how much we want to believe thes conspiracies are true to the point that we can't even relinquish the idea that donal trump doesn't pull the strengt any more and that is just the magic trick he has pulled, a somebody who is so afraid of loss and admitting any kind of defeat, that even hi supporters can't admit that he does not have that power >> so you're hosting the daily show this upcoming week, i kno you've been spending some time out in the field, there is a lot to talk about. i think it is fair to say. what is the topic you are most excited to delve into that w can all expect, as we view >> well, i want to delve int what is happening right now, i was at this tulsa gun, show an we are going to look at wh

america is obsessed with the ar-15. i was with aoc just the othe day talking about a violence prevention program in new york city, and i was having tim with governor whitmer, the governor of michigan, my hom state, and we talked about the gun control legislation sh passed we talked about how abortion i an issue that she was able t run on, it is one of the futur of michigan politics and national politics. so we are gonna take the new of the day, we're gonna take some humor in it but we want t bounce ideas off of a lot of people as well >> jordan klepper, thank you for joining me this morning. be sure to catch jordan postin the daily show, starting tomorrow through thursday. you can watch on comedy centra and paramount+ next, my thoughts on why a personal connection to pretentious topics may be real catalyst for change and later, congressman bowma takes in the middle school h founded in the bronx as a part of his weekend routine, much more of inside with n jepsaki, after a quick break. after a quick break. an architecture firm... and homemade barbeque sauce. they're called 'small businesses.'

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changing minds in the countr on same-sex marriage back in 2004, the issue of same-sex marriage was so politically divisive that th push campaign pushed for ballo initiatives in 11 states t help turnout conservativ voters and it worked. i know, because i was on the losing campaign. the issue was still frau enough eight years later tha even the democratic presiden barack obama did not publicl supported. that is why it was such an explosive moment, at least inside the white house when was working at the time when then vice president joe bide made these unplanned comment on meet the press in may o 2012 >> as more and more american come to understand that what this is all about as a simpl proposition. who do you love? who do you love? and will you be loyal to the person you love? and that is what people ar finding out is what al marriages, at their root, ar about. whether the marriage is of

lesbians or gay men or heterosexuals. >> is that what you believe? now >> that's what i believe >> do you know what moved him? in large part, his kids, and his grandkids. fast forward to now. it is not just that 71% of americans support lega same-sex marriage, 39 hous republicans and 12 senat republicans voted to codify ga marriage into lot end of las year so why did public opinion in the opinions of electe officials move in part because people fel impacted personally. they had a son, a daughter, neighbor, a friend, who came out as gay this gallup polling from 200 shows that people's views were affected from knowing someon who is a part of the lgbtq community. and that same poll said, quote opposition to gay marriage higher among those who do no known someone who is gay o lesbian. >> progress takes time that can be maddening. the moral arc that is bendin towards justice sometimes it

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donald trump was arraigned but beyond those headlines, wanted to know more about what really drives this forme principal turned lawmaker. so i caught up with him at the middle school he founded, th cornerstone academy for social action, in the bronx >> congressman, thank you so much for having me it is so great to be here. >> thanks for coming >> is it while being back at your old school. >> it's awesome, i come here every now and then to recharge my batteries >> that's good >> what's, up man. >> i love that little pump i up map what led you to motivate you t leave the school that yo founded and run for congress >> you know, i just started to see a pattern of kid struggling with so many things that were beyond the control o the school kids struggling with being

unhoused, kids having family members who -- >> kids were the students here -- >> yes, our students kids who had family members wh were entangled in the justic system kids who we saw a dramatic ris in self harm and suicida ideation, the year before decided to run i just saw kids everywhere being hurt or killed or hurtin themselves and elected officials were not talking about it, at all so i made the interestin decision to run for the hous of representatives >> another issue you have been very outspoken on, you've been very outspoken on a number o issues, i think it is fair t say. but that is gun violence especially in the last few weeks. after the school shooting in tennessee, three lives of youn children, three additional lives were taken you've got into a bit of a bac and forth with congressman massie over gun violence, an he tried to argue that teacher

should be armed. you were not having any of that, i think it is fair to say. but why is arming teachers not the right idea as someone who has been in a school because it feels crazy to me t ask this question, but it' true this is something a lot of people are proposing advocating for, getting more guns into the hands of teacher so that they can defen themselves >> yeah, so, and i asked representative massie, have yo ever been in a school? have you ever worked in school and he fell silent because h has never worked in a school where do i begin teachers have to pla curriculum, revised curriculum plain lessons, implement lessons, grade tests, meet wit parents, engage with the community, provide emotional support to kids, and ten other things that i'm forgetting and oh yeah, let's put a gun o their hip, so that they can go train to learn how to use this gun and prepare for th possibility of a mass shoote in their schools that is the kind of society we

want to live in? i don't think so >> on tiktok, you have bee outspoken against a ban. is there anything that you could learn about what the chinese have access to, what they are doing with it, that would prompt you to support ban. >> yeah, i haven't seen an evidence of chinese espionag -- >> the intel, or anything. >> yeah, there has not been top secret congressional briefing on what china is doin with tiktok. we've never had, that at the same time, facebook, i realtime, ignored russia interference in our 2016 elections. like that happened, that is fact that is documented we had no conversation about banning facebook so we just need to be honest about what is happening, and i all honesty, is this in my opinion, tiktok is just better product period >> then facebook >> then facebook, then instagram, then twitter.

it is a better product >> to reach people >> to reach people, to connect with people. i get much less hate in vitr on tiktok. it is more enjoyable to engage with, it is more educational and it feels to me like it i just another product >> i know there are some place in the school that has special meaning to you >> the whole school, but we ca go to a couple places for sure >> they did not have anythin like this in my middle schoo or high school, it was a few years ago, but still >> absolutely. >> are you musically talente or inclined? >> i've got a little bars, i'v got some wraps every now and then, but i don't want to spit right now. >> fair, we will save that we will check in with yo online this is great, now i know yo have a favorite bakery i think that we may be worth to chec out. are you hungry to get a snack? >> we could go get a littl snack. ♪ ♪ ♪ all right.

>> what do you typically order here >> so, an almond croissant warm it up please if you don't mind >> a warm almond croissant okay >> very important, it has to b warm and a coffee, that is fine wit me ♪ ♪ ♪ >> so you are a lifelong new yorker, you're a proud new yorker you love new york. >> yeah, ride or die, new york is an incredible place as a state, i'm from new yor city, so obviously i have bias towards new york city it is just that so many people so many cultures, so man different backgrounds. >> someone you've heard, o marjorie taylor greene law [laughter] you had a bit of a small altercation with, her a verbal altercation. so tell me what was goin through her head when you told or to go back home and she was here >> first of all, i was angry that she really could come because she is coming from political theater, and to help with - >> the day of the trum

arraignment. >> yes it was the day of the arraignment. so for her, it is about goin viral, it is about fund raising, and i've heard she wants to be the vp nominee >> it has been a hard couple o years for the country, but wha gives you hope as a member o congress >> when i visit schools an talk to kids and young people. i mean, they all get it. intuitively. they have great common sense they see the problems and they will understand why we can't work together. so i'm always inspired by youn people >> congressman bowman, thank you so much for spending tim with me today. >> absolutely, thank you >> thank you to congressma jamal bowman for spending some time with me this week at hi school and at a bakery next, an exciting announcement about two big guests we will have on our show, next sunday. have on our show, next sunday.

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